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  • 1- I am from Hijaz, Saudi Arabia. 2- I am currently studying in the US & fully legal. 3- Since I am an alien (according to the law), I am allowed to make grammatical mistakes and endless run-ons. 4- I do pick sides and call them "educated opinions." (I am pro-choice). 5- I believe that the number one worst export of America is "McDonalds", best export, on the other hand, is "Individualism". 6- I am becoming more cynical and less optimistic by the day (Need a cure). 7- I can’t tolerate irrelevance.

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November 28, 2006

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Abu Sinan

Opps, the Saudi issue was with Riggs Bank, not BB&T.

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Abu Sinan I don't know where you got the figure of $3,000 for Kuwaities, but I assure you they only get $1,500-$1,700. As for U.A.E, I've heard the popular rumour as well, that they get $4,000? That's only with the military scholarship, and not for the standard one.

Abu Sinan

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Maybe that is rumour. I heard it from all of the Saudi students I have known here on scholarship, so I guess I thought it was true. So much for "urban" myths eh? Not having known any Kuwaiti or Emirati students here on scholarship, I had no way of knowing first hand.

The Saudi scholarship is kind of a graded one. If you are female it depends on if you are married or have a mehrem, it also depends on how many kids you have.

I think the top you can get on the Saudi scholarship would be around $3,000 something, that is if you are married with several children and are a man, or a women married with mehrem.

Still, a great deal when compared to the types of scholarships they offer to people here in the West.

Besides, I think the scholarship money is pretty much "incidental" money. All of the Saudis I have known who came on scholarship came from families with money anyways and would have come with or without the money. It is the visa that the scholarship offers that is the big deal.

If you have ever been to the Metro DC area, at least, you'd know that $1,500-$1,700 will not always get you an apartment, let alone pay for all liviing expenses.

Sunrunner

Abu Sinan, is this a monthly amount? Because if it is, if someone learns to really budget, it is a great deal. I mean, if you really try, you can get by on that amount, like learning to share an apt, to do w/out new clothes, the latest gadgets, cars etc, or even living in student housing! Also, most foreign students are allowed to work a certain number of hours (never 40!) particularly in work-study situations.

Abu Sinan

It is a monthly amount. But, as far as I know, it does not change based on where you are going to school.

So, for instance, a single Saudi girl going to school here in the Metro DC area will make about $1,200 a month, I believe, without a mehrem.

The problem is, if you are going to a place like Georgetown, it will be hard to find a room around the campus for less than probably $800 a month, depending on how you are willing to live.

That gives you $400 a month for transportation, food, clothes and the like.

As I have said before, I have never met a Saudi student who was using this money as their sole source of income. Most Saudi students come from at least a middle class background where the scholarship money is in addition to a monthly sum that the family will be sending.

I have known Saudi students from wealthy families that use the money as their "Porshe" or "Mercedes" money, others who use it as party money.

As to working whilst on a scholarship, I dont know about that. When my wife was on the scholarship she was on a diplomatic visa for part of it, and green card on the rest, so I dont know. Both of my sister in laws currently on the scholarship are here without a visa, so it doesnt affect them.

I cannot say I have known any Saudi student that I have known that has worked whilst going to school, although I am sure there are some. I knew one girl that worked as a belly dancer in Kansas City, but that was paid under the table anyway. Rest assured, her parents didnt know she was doing this whilst she was here in the USA on her studies.

Unfortunately, some Saudi students have a great reputation for drinking, drugs and parties. But I think the same could be said of students who come from other strict backgrounds and cultures. When they come to a place with little supervision, they go crazy.

But they should beware, the Cultural Mission indeed has spies who report such activity to the Cultural Mission and Saudi students have been sent back to Saudi for such things.

It also has a high personal price. I have been told that there were 5 suicides last year from the Saudi student community here in the USA. Considering their numbers, and the low rate of suicide in Saudi, that should be sending somebody some warning signals.

Sunrunner

Interesting Abu Sinan. But I still don't have much sympathy (for example) Georgetown students, as they can do what a lot of other people with more limited budgets do and live a a bit aways out of G-town, and DC being so small, it isn't the worst thing to have to commute a little. And again, there are opportunities for work, limited on a student visa, but there nevertheless.

And I know what you mean about partying students, as I have lived in college towns in which "rich" foreign students really live it up and stand out with their flamboyent cars and bling etc. This has been going on for quite some time. But I have also seen foreign students from more difficult countries here on incredibly limited means who are so grateful to have an opportunity to study in a world class university that they are willing to literally (almost!) starve themselves in order to make it through. As well as plenty of Americans, for that matter.

At any rate, if I really *had* to, I could get by on $400 a month (after my housing expenses were paid) -- not easy, but definately doable, though it doesn't sound like many are really challenged to do so in any case. And of course there is no reason why the families shouldn't be paying for the bulk of the education expenses -- if they can. I would doubt that many really poor Saudi students would really have access to the educational resources which would prepare them for a US university (eg, Toffle classes etc), so I guess I am saying that I don't get what the big deal is here. I am sure the Saudi Gov *could* afford to put up more $$, but it seems like it would be better spent on other things, like on their own internal education institutions, which from what I understand, could really use some help. Particularly girls schools and colleges.

Organic Muslimah

My 2 cents.

If these "extremist" are so powerful and strong like that, why can't they stand up against the government and all the crap it's been doing to it's citizens. Or is it just easy to pick on poor actors and civilians?

I wonder who are the real cowards.

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